Procedures, KORF added, minor updates Options

[BDoney]

Procedures for CYYZ KATL KBHM KBNA KBOS KBTR KBWI KCLE KCMH KCVG KDAL KDBQ KDCA KDFW KDSM KDTW KEUG KEWR KFLL KIAD KIAH KIND KJFK KLAX KLEX KLGA KLGB KMCO KMEM KMIA KMKE KMSN KMSY KORD KPDX KPHL KPIT KPVD KRDU KSAN KSDF KSEA KSLC KSTL KTPA KXNA

KORF, KXNA, KDSM, KSDF, KLEX credits to Adam (adamant365)

 0703_PROCEDURES.zip ( 129.52K ) Number of downloads: 737
UPLOADED APRIL 02, 2007

Extract to: Flight Simulator 9\MADDOG2006\Routes

New procedures are on hold indefinitely.

Thanks to Terry Yingling for all source data: PlanePath, and also thanks to Dan Downs for files from his PMDG Procedures collection, available at AVSIM.

Please post any issues/questions/concerns here. I can't fix it if you don't tell me about it.

This post has been edited by BDoney: 02/04/2008, 2:07

[THORmx]

Thanks for the help Brian! Once I finish my ATP written and CFI crap...i'd love to help. Once this ProMaker gets fixed, i'll get some stuff in the West goin.

[BDoney]

Thats cool man, good luck

This is just one of those things, it can be really boring and time consuming, so you just do it a little at a time...

Otherwise ya burn yourself out until ya HATE it.

My plan so far has been major destinations w/alternates...next up will probably be BWI/IAD/DCA...

At any rate, ya know, even if a person just does one or two fields, their homebase or nearest major, it helps add to the total...

Also, THANK YOU LEONARDO SH for the ProMaker !!!! I love it !!!

[THORmx]

Yeah, I need it! Taking it Thurs Morn!

Anyway, I'll more than likely do BIL, BTM, BZN, SLC, LAS, PHX (if you do the ones from PMDG they might already be done ).

ProMaker is an awesome idea, it just needs to be fine tuned!

[BDoney]

if you do the ones from PMDG they might already be done

Just wanted to point out, they can be used as a starting point, but...most are very bare in terms of missed approaches, sid/star transitions, and even at that, have leg types that the Maddog can't deal with...

Though running them through ProMaker and at least setting the VISIBLE flags is a great start...

[THORmx]

what do the "visible flags" do? also, this could be a GREAT tool, if it could work with PMDG too. we'd have some great things going if this great addon benefits another.

[BDoney]

It assures that each fix so labeled shows on the ND....it's a long story why that's even an issue, lol....but that's what it does...

Technically, they are compatible with PMDG, there just a bit simpler, in terms of leg types, etc...the NG and 744 FMS is a bit more capable of doing tricks than the old Maddog...

Run Replace (Ctrl+H) in notepad one one of these procs, replacing the term FIX VISIBLE with FIX, and you'd have a perfectly compatible PMDG file...

[BDoney]

DC area now up

[adamant365]

Brian,
Kudos for the hard work so far...For my first attempt, I will do my hometown airport, KLEX. In fact I just finished it in about 15 minutes (not much to it really, but DL does fly an MD-88 out of Blue Grass and into ATL and return once daily, overnighting in LEX). This file includes RWY 4/22 approaches (ILS & RNAV), all missed approaches, and all the transitions. Also includes CLEGG1 arrival with IIU and CVG trans. I didn't do any of the procedure turn approaches over the markers because I don't know how to do the proc. turns yet. Maybe if I figure it out, I will include them. Anyway, next up, KSDF...AA and DL have scheduled -82/88 into there daily as well...By the way, if you'd like to include this file in your post at the top, fell free...just give me credit
-adam

 KLEX.txt ( 2.55K ) Number of downloads: 39

[BDoney]

Adam,

Glad to have ya

Looks pretty good, A couple of small corrections/tips if ya don't mind :

CVG and IIU transitions on the arrival didn't have VISIBLE flags, pretty much add these to every fix, just saves losing them doing a DIR TO, etc..

HYK as the anchor fix should also be visible, even if vectors are expected...seems more consistent with the charting.

It's a good idea to set a speed of 170kts AND Glide height for the FAF, this sets the speed for all missed approach turns and helps the FMS draw a more accurate picture.

It's also a good idea to set a standard speed of 200kts for standard holds, in addition to the 1 minute legs, helps size em down a bit.

If you play with the RNAV procs, make sure to check the hold notation for leg distance, they were off by one mile.

HYK holds are at 3100ft.

Also a good idea for your approach transitions to set some at or above constraints....for example with the ILS 22 SADDL fix I'd set it at or above 3200.

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OK so that sounds like I'm picking apart your work, and I don't want you to think that, but let me warn ya, the more you get into it the more addicting it seems to get...

ONE IMPORTANT NOTE: The best solution many times to get a track to intercept, etc, is to actually hand edit the procedure...be advised that ProMaker will replace these types of commands with pseudo-fixes it generates, and they are not always a one for one match with the hand written instructions. If you load a proc that has lots of these type instructions, like KATL above, make sure you have a backup, or the first time you click save, all the instructions are replaced.

This post has been edited by BDoney: 26/03/2007, 0:11

[Tord Hoppe]

My first attempt. ESSA Stockholm/Arlanda, Sweden. I haven?t had any chance to test it yet so be warned

Attached File(s)

 ESSA.txt ( 11.18K ) Number of downloads: 137

 

[adamant365]

Brian,
Really, not picking them apart at all...I call it constructive criticism. Being my first attempt, I expected there to be inaccuracies. As for the hold altitudes, I didn't even realize it when I started but, the charts I have (from naco.faa.gov) are from even before the runway realignment (27 OCT 2005 to 24 NOV 2005 !!!). I guess I'll get the updates and make a few changes. Really though, thanks for the help. I guess as I do this more, I'll develop a system (I'm very procedure oriented...I work in a hospital lab, I have to be). And I can tell you what, I can understand how it can be addicting. I've never seen a program like procmaker before. It is cool. Anyway, thanks again. With a little work by us all, we can have realistic prcedures for the whole Maddog community. I hope to someday soon have procedures for all of the US airports that have MD-82/88 flights.
-adam

[BDoney]

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This post has been edited by BDoney: 26/03/2007, 0:09

[Fritz Essono]

Thank you Brian and others !!!

[adamant365]

Hey Brian,
Here's SDF if you'd like to include it. I'm pretty sure I got this one prettly close to perfect this time
-adam

 KSDF.txt ( 5.32K ) Number of downloads: 54

[BDoney]

Adam,

Just about perfect is right ! Great job !

Only a few small things:

Be careful using NAVAID flags if there is a fix of the same name in the FIXES list. The reason being, the FMS will default to the FIX over the NAVAID, and ya end up with a FIX in the procedure with no VISIBLE flag. Check the RDSTN1 arrival for examples.

Only other fix was with the LOC29 approach, this:

APPROACH LOC29 HOLD AT FIX LAANG

should read like this:

APPROACH LOC29 FIX VISIBLE LAANG HOLD AT FIX LAANG


That's it. Everything else looks really good, thanks man

[THORmx]

did a new Promaker come out, allowing west of W099???

[BDoney]

Nope

Doing them the old fashioned way

[THORmx]

ouch, sounds rough

[BDoney]

Nah, it's not bad, it can actually be allot quicker, just have to be more careful.

All good so far, about to upload LGB as #40

[BDoney]

BAH ! Found an error in the KPDX file, that renders BONVL5 west unavailable, I will update the file shortly.

Sorry for any inconvenience.

This post has been edited by BDoney: 26/03/2007, 12:13

[adamant365]

Hey Brian,
Do you take speed or something? How do you hand-write all of these procedure files in such a short time? Really impressive and much appreciated! Thanks, I'm very busy right now, but if I get a few minutes, I'll work on a few to upload...
-adam

[BDoney]

Hey Brian,
Do you take speed or something? How do you hand-write all of these procedure files in such a short time? Really impressive and much appreciated! Thanks, I'm very busy right now, but if I get a few minutes, I'll work on a few to upload...
-adam

Red Bull gives you wings !



Nah, I took a voluntary layoff at the beginning of the month, so lots of spare time.

Plus, I'll be away for a bit in the beginning of April, so I wanna get as many done as I can before then.

This post has been edited by BDoney: 26/03/2007, 12:09

[adamant365]

Red Bull gives you wings !

HA HA HA!

Understood....well off to bed for me (I obviously work nights). I'll get up bright and early and maybe do a few AAL destinations...maybe AAY as well. You're right, when the spare time is there, this is a very addicting side-note to the actual flying bit...
-adam

[adamant365]

Brian,
Here's DSM:  KDSM.txt ( 4.1K ) Number of downloads: 43


-adam

[BDoney]

[adamant365]

Brian,
Here's kind of a lazy "quick-one"...XNA, only one runway, four total procedures. Later if I get a chance, DAY is the next up...
-adam

 KXNA.txt ( 2.28K ) Number of downloads: 32

[adamant365]

Brian,
I've gotten all of my charts for Europe (and most are as professional as the naco.faa.gov charts) from www.ead.eurocontrol.int. I don't know if the data is updated regularly, but as far as I know, it is rare that those precedures are changed at all. Anyway, there is a link to register on the left navbar "Login/Register". It's actually quite easy. If you have trouble registering let me know.
-adam

This post has been edited by adamant365: 27/03/2007, 21:37

[Egbert Drenth]

Brian,
I've gotten all of my charts for Europe (and most are as professional as the naco.faa.gov charts) from www.ead.eurocontrol.int. I don't know if the data is updated regularly, but as far as I know, it is rare that those precedures are changed at all. Anyway, there is a link to register on the left navbar "Login/Register". It's actually quite easy. If you have trouble registering let me know.
-adam

Eurocontrol charts are up to date. Create an login and start the 'PAMS Light' java application.
It is a bit of a struggle to find the charts (i.e. proper selection of the filters) but most European charts are there.

[adamant365]

Eurocontrol charts are up to date. Create an login and start the 'PAMS Light' java application.
It is a bit of a struggle to find the charts (i.e. proper selection of the filters) but most European charts are there.