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hydpress

06/06/2007, 7:39

Brian,

wow, thanks for that comprehensive reply!

QUOTE (BDoney @ 05/06/2007, 14:08)

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there's a STAR at LOWS that starts at the RTT NDB and routes via CHIEM and a couple of DME-defined intersections to SBG VOR.

I've taken a look at the chart from EADS, and I believe the transition you speak of, on the chart I see, is listed as:

FM TULSI via L725 to CHIEM->INSOL via T701 to SBG VOR

Yes, that's basically the one... I was using the charts at http://www.vacc-sag.org (the VATSIM ACC for Switzerland, Austria and Germany), and they seem to be out of date, so sorry about the confusion.

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If this is correct, I think the best way to code these arrivals is to create each transition as a separate STAR, only because the STAR itself does not seem to have an identifier to name it as a whole.

OK, that makes sense...

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So I would do the following:

STAR TULSI FIX VISIBLE TULSI FIX VISIBLE CHIEM FIX VISIBLE INSOL NAVAID SBG
STAR KPT NAVAID KPT FIX VISIBLE TRAUN NAVAID SBG

OK, so you include the first waypoint in the STAR... that's what made the most sense to me, too, but I've seen some procedure files that left those waypoints off, so I wasn't sure...

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I like to play it a bit safe. All fixes that are NOT specifically VOR's or NDB's get redefined in the individual procedure file. I agree, it may be a bit more work initially, but IMHO it allows for much greater flexibility, in addition to remaining compatible across different AIRAC cycles, as you mention.

Right, so I'll add FIX entries for everything that's not a VOR or NDB...

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Oh, and Brian -- if you could check out my procedure file when I'm done, that would be great!

I'd be glad to. I wish I could find more time to write new files, but that hasn't been possible these past weeks, so at the very least I can help give advice from what I have learned so far.

Well, your comments have certainly been very helpful! I'll upload the procedure file when I have it ready...

Cheers,

Martin

hydpress

10/06/2007, 13:16

Hi everyone, here's my procedure file for LOWS. Any comments are welcome...

Click to view attachment

I'm also planning to upload this to the PMDG section of navdata.at -- can anyone tell me what the exact differences between the Maddog version of the PMDG format and the "original" PMDG format are? Can I simply delete all of the "VISIBLE" specifiers to obtain a valid PMDG file?

Cheers,

Martin

Adam Pihavek

21/06/2007, 9:31

Hi all,
I have just now completed correction of PMDG procedures of LKPR(prague ruzyne) for maddog.
You can find it here: Click to view attachment

It is my first attempt,so comments are welcome

. I still don?t know exactly,how to make a typical "drop". in any approaches etc...I know,that in pro maker,there are a lot of oprions,but they aren?t explained in manual at all...if there was any better tutorial,it would be appreciated.

And could anyone tell me,how are called in real maddog database FAF point and etc?

Thanks,
Adam

P.S.I was also thinking about procedures database for maddog...I think,searching in this thread is little bit chaotic...are there any plans to make a page like on navdata.at ,to be able to dowload AIO or each proc. separately and also you would know,when it was uploaded etc....or what about uploading it straight to navdata.at ??

hydpress

21/06/2007, 12:59

QUOTE (Adam Pihavek @ 21/06/2007, 10:31)

P.S.I was also thinking about procedures database for maddog...I think,searching in this thread is little bit chaotic...are there any plans to make a page like on navdata.at ,to be able to dowload AIO or each proc. separately and also you would know,when it was uploaded etc....or what about uploading it straight to navdata.at ??

That sounds like a very good idea... I've been thinking about uploading my LOWS procedures to the PMDG section at navdata.at but am hesitant about it, because a "native" PMDG coding of those procedures would probably use a few leg types not supported by the Maddog. So maybe it would make sense to ask Richard Stefan to open a new section for "Maddog PMDG" procedures.

OTOH, I've heard Richard Stefan has almost finished a converter that will allow him to release PMDG procedures generated directly from his AIRAC source files, so maybe once he's finished that we can convince him to tweak the converter slightly so it will generate Maddog-compatible procedures. No more hand-coding necessary, and we would be able to get updated procedures every 28 days...

Martin

sjampas

01/04/2008, 12:12

Hi there!
Have put mine here: ENGM,ENTO,ENRY,ENBO
Contain some fictional fixes to maintain hdgs but it will get you there...
If I make more Ill will put them there aswell. Based on Navigraph charts.
No garanty that they work 100% not fully flight testet mostly looked at in promaker.

Jan Tore Elvheim
Norway

igniflight

07/09/2009, 16:07

salve!, posso Avere delle informazioni Come creare posso: up: un piano di volo col FMS 900 ??... GRAZIE!

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